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 Arizona Governor Jan Brewer Proposes Fining Fat People and Smokers
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer Proposes Fining Fat People and Smokers
As part of a plan to revamp the state's Medicaid program, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer announced on Thursday that she is proposing fees for adults who lead unhealthy lives. Childless adults who are obese or suffer from a chronic condition and who fail to work with their doctor to meet specific goals would be charged $50 annually. The $50 annual fee also would apply to all childless adult smokers. picked by B-MoreRavensFan 8 months ago
tags nanny state Arizona Jan Brewer Medicaid
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 DoggySpe...
8 months ago
Why? With the upcoming mandatory health insurance coming up, the insurance companies would do that themselves by raising premiums.
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 B-MoreRa...
8 months ago
I thought conservatives like Gov. Brewer were against the "nanny state" telling people how to live. I mean, Michelle Obama has been attacked on Fox News for her campaign against childhood obesity, but it's not as if she is imposing laws on anyone.

How would this law be enforced? Are Arizona bureaucrats going to go door-to-door looking for cigarette butts and fast food packaging? Medicaid is meant for low-income people and I see these fines as nothing more than a tax on the poor. Sure, obesity and smoking cost the healthcare system huge amounts of money every year, but this is the wrong approach to reduce those trends. Higher taxes on cigarettes and fast food would be a better approach to close the budget gap for Medicaid, since those taxes are voluntary (since they tax a sale of goods that people choose to buy instead of a mandatory fine). It would also reduce the consumption of those unhealthy products.
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 cecilber...
8 months ago
If we can't deport them, then I guess fines will have to do.
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 kerobero...
8 months ago
« B-MoreRavensFan 

Childless adults who are obese or suffer from a chronic condition and who fail to work with their doctor to meet specific goals would be charged $50 annually. The $50 annual fee also would apply to all childless adult smokers.
Problem SOLVED! Have a freaking child, you can be as obese and smoke your lungs out without any penalty...
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 madhatte...
8 months ago
« keroberos32 : Problem SOLVED! Have a freaking child, you can be as obese and smoke your lungs out without any penalty...
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 Bornbad
8 months ago
« madhatteraggie : 
Great find, Aggie.
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 madhatte...
8 months ago
« Bornbad : Great find, Aggie.
Tankies, it was the first thing that popped into my head. :-p
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 bcgrote
8 months ago
Yeah, that is discrimination against people who don't have, or want, kids.

They could just make it like here in California. If you made ANY money, from ANY source, including SSDI, you can't get state Medicaid. Or so it seems. I know several indigent and disabled people, myself included, and they couldn't get Medicaid here either. And the WIC program, which is supposed to provide assistance to families with young children in order to buy healthy food? It's known as "Welfare if Colored".
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 NoPantsM...
8 months ago
One of the more despicable ideas I've heard.

What makes this especially disgusting is the idea wasn't ridiculed and shot down. I am praying it was just out of politeness and respect for the office and the idea will be just brushed away and forgotten.

Can't imagine it would stand up in court though.
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 Moe
7 months ago
It is discriminatory - what if you are a overweight gay couple who adopted kids but only took up smoking after they started going to high school?
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 susansua...
7 months ago
I would like to see the opposite happen. Meet your goals and receive a $50 check from the government. Haven't we always been told positive reinforcement is better than negative?
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 bdeel
7 months ago
thxxxx for articel
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 Interest...
7 months ago
« madhatteraggie : Tankies, it was the first thing that popped into my head. :-p
I'm sorry that ever popped into your head.

I'm actually all for not using state funds to pay for people to kill themselves slowly. Maybe fining them isn't the answer, but neither is paying out big bucks to healthcare professionals so that they can get that wonderful sensation of talking to a brick wall.
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 meddelem
7 months ago
why no industrial hemp?
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